HELP problems in /EOTN/ Nightfall - Guild Wars Forums

Amorica Gem · Jan 25, 2009, 06:50 PM // 18:50

I am having big problems when playing eye of the north. I entered into the "knowledgable Asura" primary quest and then entered the Sub quest of "finding Gadd" after initial problems with getting regularly being wiped out on the way from Vlox's falls to the shards of Orr caverns i found that when i eventually arrived there I had a 60% death penalty and consequently each time i entered the cave was immediately beaten down, after numerous attempts i was able to get to the caves of or with a full life (no death penalty) but the caves soon take your life blood. I took on the secondary quest of "lost Souls" to free Glaive & her crew's spirits after many attempts was able to find map & Key to dungeon. but when get to the first entrance i come up against the Skeleton Wizards who seem to be unbeatable and soon reduce me to 60%DP I am a level 20 paragon/warrior & took Olias, Dunkoro, & Ogden as my heroes Mhenlo, Aiden talon silverwing & Cynn make up my party.
I read in the help list that devine damage works against the undead as well as "lightbringers gaze" ( which seems to be useless for me ) i equipped both my monks with all the devine damage skills i could but now each time i try to get past those Skeleton wizards and their crew I am not able to kill any of them which in the past quests i have at least been able it whittle the opposition down by putting all my efforts into one oponent at a time and although get wiped out pretty quick at least am able to reduce the opposition eventually, Not so this time. after spending about 5 hours at this stage of the quest I have given up the will to live, I know it is fun when the quests are difficult but what is the point if they are unwinnable as this quest is one third of the primary quest and I cannot win Livia as a hero until I pass it I know I must return to try again but am getting very frustrated at being unable to complete this mission can anyone give me advice on this quest please ?????:
another quest I have failed miserably on is the Battle of turai's procession where you have to stand your ground against a horde of nightmare creatures who flood you with such numbers you are immediatly overwhelmed and of course as your DP deminishes so do your chance of ever winning the the battle.what is the point of setting a quest that is un winnable??? I have returned to this quest again & again with no success and is one which although I am not a quitter I am very tempted to abandon.can anyone give advice on this one please?????:

HawkofStorms · Jan 25, 2009, 07:13 PM // 19:13

Its not unwinnable. Otherwise how do other people beat it eh?

Anyway, the quest with freeing lady glaive is a dungeon. That dungeon is one of the hardest in the game. Don't take that quest at the same time (you can't do them together anyway). Abandon that quest and don't do it. In Shard of Orr while trying to get to Gadd's, take your time. Only aggro what you need to aggro. Run around/avoid any mobs you can. Take real players/ask your guild for help. Make sure to avoid [eruption] which is blinding you. Use your flags. Its not easy, but you'll be fine if you take it slow.

joshuarodger · Jan 25, 2009, 07:35 PM // 19:35

on the way to the dungeon, you can avoid almost all enemies. depending on their spawn points, sometmes you don't think you have to aggro a single one in fact.

if you have dunkoro, you should also have tahlkora so set up your heroes something like this

dunk: [ray of judg][smite hex][smite cond][reversal of da][smiter's boon][glyph of lesser][castigation sig][judge's insi]
tahlk: [ray of judg][smite hex][reversal of dam][castigation sig][aegis][resurrection chant][glyph of lesser][protective spirit]
oggy: [ray of judg][smite cond][reversal of dam][castigation sig][dwayna's kiss][words of com][glyph of lesser][resurrection chant]

then you can take menhlo, zho, aiden, and devona. it's best if you force your heroes to cast [[ray of jud] on the priests or clerics first. after they get that off they should really just spam reversal and the smite skills on your party. if you play ranger, as i'm assuming you do from your profile, you should take barrage, disable [[judges ins] on your hero (do this by holding shift and clicking on the skill in your hero panel) and force your hero to cast [[judges insi] on you and aiden (do this by targeting yourself in the party window and clicking on your heroes skill while it's still disabled) so you can have a lot of pew pew holy damage for all those nasty undead. just make sure you don't take more than one group at a time and you should be fine.

as hawk said, abandon the quest "lost souls" and make sure you have the quest "finding gadd" as your selected quest in your quest log. if all else fails, you can spam "looking for runner to gadd's" in vlox's falls american district and you should be able to pay some 1-2k to run you there or pm me in game and i'll just run you through the dungeon to gadd's encampment when i'm not busy.

IGN 2 accts: divine swirly, sin swirly

Zodiac Meteor · Jan 25, 2009, 07:52 PM // 19:52

Ask a guildy. Or, if I have time, PM me in game. I'll get my heroes for rayway.

IGN Zodiac Ele. I'm on not on that, add to friends, I have 10 characters and I'll probably be on one. On on right now.

Kerwyn Nasilan · Jan 25, 2009, 08:52 PM // 20:52

[save yourselves]

12 chars

Lord Of Blame · Jan 25, 2009, 09:12 PM // 21:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by joshuarodger

on the way to the dungeon, you can avoid almost all enemies. depending on their spawn points, sometmes you don't think you have to aggro a single one in fact.

if you have dunkoro, you should also have tahlkora so set up your heroes something like this

dunk: [ray of judg][smite hex][smite cond][reversal of da][smiter's boon][glyph of lesser][castigation sig][judge's insi]
tahlk: [ray of judg][smite hex][reversal of dam][castigation sig][aegis][resurrection chant][glyph of lesser][protective spirit]
oggy: [ray of judg][smite cond][reversal of dam][castigation sig][dwayna's kiss][words of com][glyph of lesser][resurrection chant]

then you can take menhlo, zho, aiden, and devona. it's best if you force your heroes to cast [[ray of jud] on the priests or clerics first. after they get that off they should really just spam reversal and the smite skills on your party. if you play ranger, as i'm assuming you do from your profile, you should take barrage, disable [[judges ins] on your hero (do this by holding shift and clicking on the skill in your hero panel) and force your hero to cast [[judges insi] on you and aiden (do this by targeting yourself in the party window and clicking on your heroes skill while it's still disabled) so you can have a lot of pew pew holy damage for all those nasty undead. just make sure you don't take more than one group at a time and you should be fine.

as hawk said, abandon the quest "lost souls" and make sure you have the quest "finding gadd" as your selected quest in your quest log. if all else fails, you can spam "looking for runner to gadd's" in vlox's falls american district and you should be able to pay some 1-2k to run you there or pm me in game and i'll just run you through the dungeon to gadd's encampment when i'm not busy.

IGN 2 accts: divine swirly, sin swirly

Since you can't run with all 3 necro's yet this setup should work pretty well, escipally against the undead. I would recommend the earth hench over adian anyday, her wards help alot.

Amorica Gem · Jan 26, 2009, 07:01 PM // 19:01

To all you guys who posted help advice I thank you for reminding me why I joined GW. what a fantastic bunch of guys I thank you for your help and offers of assistance. I am not yet a member of a guild so do rely on advice from more experienced players like yourselves it is good to know that there are people like you to guide us newbys along. I will try your advice although some of the elite skills advised are not in my skill range yet as i have not captured many, but will strive to do so thanks again I will try to update my progress.

Jan 25, 2009, 06:50 PM // 18:50	#1
Amorica Gem Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Aug 2008 Guild: Guild Wars Profession: R/E	HELP problems in /EOTN/ Nightfall I am having big problems when playing eye of the north. I entered into the "knowledgable Asura" primary quest and then entered the Sub quest of "finding Gadd" after initial problems with getting regularly being wiped out on the way from Vlox's falls to the shards of Orr caverns i found that when i eventually arrived there I had a 60% death penalty and consequently each time i entered the cave was immediately beaten down, after numerous attempts i was able to get to the caves of or with a full life (no death penalty) but the caves soon take your life blood. I took on the secondary quest of "lost Souls" to free Glaive & her crew's spirits after many attempts was able to find map & Key to dungeon. but when get to the first entrance i come up against the Skeleton Wizards who seem to be unbeatable and soon reduce me to 60%DP I am a level 20 paragon/warrior & took Olias, Dunkoro, & Ogden as my heroes Mhenlo, Aiden talon silverwing & Cynn make up my party. I read in the help list that devine damage works against the undead as well as "lightbringers gaze" ( which seems to be useless for me ) i equipped both my monks with all the devine damage skills i could but now each time i try to get past those Skeleton wizards and their crew I am not able to kill any of them which in the past quests i have at least been able it whittle the opposition down by putting all my efforts into one oponent at a time and although get wiped out pretty quick at least am able to reduce the opposition eventually, Not so this time. after spending about 5 hours at this stage of the quest I have given up the will to live, I know it is fun when the quests are difficult but what is the point if they are unwinnable as this quest is one third of the primary quest and I cannot win Livia as a hero until I pass it I know I must return to try again but am getting very frustrated at being unable to complete this mission can anyone give me advice on this quest please ?????: another quest I have failed miserably on is the Battle of turai's procession where you have to stand your ground against a horde of nightmare creatures who flood you with such numbers you are immediatly overwhelmed and of course as your DP deminishes so do your chance of ever winning the the battle.what is the point of setting a quest that is un winnable??? I have returned to this quest again & again with no success and is one which although I am not a quitter I am very tempted to abandon.can anyone give advice on this one please?????:

Jan 25, 2009, 07:35 PM // 19:35	#3
joshuarodger Unbanned Join Date: Jan 2008 Guild: Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] -- IGN: Swirly Profession: Mo/	on the way to the dungeon, you can avoid almost all enemies. depending on their spawn points, sometmes you don't think you have to aggro a single one in fact. if you have dunkoro, you should also have tahlkora so set up your heroes something like this dunk: [ray of judg][smite hex][smite cond][reversal of da][smiter's boon][glyph of lesser][castigation sig][judge's insi] tahlk: [ray of judg][smite hex][reversal of dam][castigation sig][aegis][resurrection chant][glyph of lesser][protective spirit] oggy: [ray of judg][smite cond][reversal of dam][castigation sig][dwayna's kiss][words of com][glyph of lesser][resurrection chant] then you can take menhlo, zho, aiden, and devona. it's best if you force your heroes to cast [[ray of jud] on the priests or clerics first. after they get that off they should really just spam reversal and the smite skills on your party. if you play ranger, as i'm assuming you do from your profile, you should take barrage, disable [[judges ins] on your hero (do this by holding shift and clicking on the skill in your hero panel) and force your hero to cast [[judges insi] on you and aiden (do this by targeting yourself in the party window and clicking on your heroes skill while it's still disabled) so you can have a lot of pew pew holy damage for all those nasty undead. just make sure you don't take more than one group at a time and you should be fine. as hawk said, abandon the quest "lost souls" and make sure you have the quest "finding gadd" as your selected quest in your quest log. if all else fails, you can spam "looking for runner to gadd's" in vlox's falls american district and you should be able to pay some 1-2k to run you there or pm me in game and i'll just run you through the dungeon to gadd's encampment when i'm not busy. IGN 2 accts: divine swirly, sin swirly Last edited by joshuarodger; Jan 25, 2009 at 07:40 PM // 19:40..

Jan 25, 2009, 07:52 PM // 19:52	#4
Zodiac Meteor Imma Firin Mah Rojway! Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: At the Mac Store laughing at people that walk out with anything. Profession: E/Mo	Ask a guildy. Or, if I have time, PM me in game. I'll get my heroes for rayway. IGN Zodiac Ele. I'm on not on that, add to friends, I have 10 characters and I'll probably be on one. On on right now. Last edited by Zodiac Meteor; Jan 25, 2009 at 07:57 PM // 19:57..

Jan 25, 2009, 07:13 PM // 19:13	#2
HawkofStorms Hall Hero Join Date: Aug 2005 Profession: E/	Its not unwinnable. Otherwise how do other people beat it eh? Anyway, the quest with freeing lady glaive is a dungeon. That dungeon is one of the hardest in the game. Don't take that quest at the same time (you can't do them together anyway). Abandon that quest and don't do it. In Shard of Orr while trying to get to Gadd's, take your time. Only aggro what you need to aggro. Run around/avoid any mobs you can. Take real players/ask your guild for help. Make sure to avoid [eruption] which is blinding you. Use your flags. Its not easy, but you'll be fine if you take it slow.

Jan 25, 2009, 08:52 PM // 20:52	#5
Kerwyn Nasilan Forge Runner Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: WHERE DO YOU THINK Profession: W/	[save yourselves] 12 chars

Jan 26, 2009, 07:01 PM // 19:01	#7
Amorica Gem Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Aug 2008 Guild: Guild Wars Profession: R/E	To all you guys who posted help advice I thank you for reminding me why I joined GW. what a fantastic bunch of guys I thank you for your help and offers of assistance. I am not yet a member of a guild so do rely on advice from more experienced players like yourselves it is good to know that there are people like you to guide us newbys along. I will try your advice although some of the elite skills advised are not in my skill range yet as i have not captured many, but will strive to do so thanks again I will try to update my progress.